Sky Burials. Male pagan rulers may take up to three concubines in addition to a wife (except for Hellenic pagans who cannot have multiple spouses or concubines unless the polygamy doctrine is chosen when reforming). However, invaders can negate the attrition by quickly building a fort in each province they enter, or by having Military Organization 4 in their capital. Suomenusko retains a sizable number of provinces throughout the game and it is very easy to put the fear of Ukko to other religions, whether you start in 769, 867 or 1066. Seabound is just useless without Daring and picking these two doctrines is silly (unless we are not getting bored with constant raiding on our foes). I disagree here. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. I think that'd be the best. Autonomous leadership is only good if you need neither GHWs nor excommunications. However, the Sons of Abraham demon child event chain will create Zunist "witches", who can be married matrilineally or assigned as guardians to children with the Faith or Heritage focus. B. Doctrine 1: Polygamy: To make best use of Imperial Succession, having loads of wives is good as you can pick the best heir one of them pops out. Which religion is best? Hellenic paganism was the faith of the Greco-Roman world before the rise of Christianity. (Especially after mass conversions.). Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods. As I said, civilized isnt good for Roman emperor as he is locked into imperial elective, and lets be honest, if we are reforming hellenic religion then we are 99% roman emperor, Problem, realize that I'm a couple months late, but stability is a doctrine, not a nature, sorry, that's bugging me, "I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty.". Defining features in-game: Low-tech non-pagans have very low Supply Limit in Pagan counties. Women can take up to 3 consorts. being able to roleplay as discount Vikings as any pagan religion can be fun, and using rivers is always an interesting mechanic. The Fun element of Proselytizing is that its the only nature that actively allows you to actively convert (outside of mass conversion events) foreign leaders to your religion. Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods.. Pagan non-nomads normally requires the Old Gods or Holy Fury DLC to be playable. The only realm following this faith is the Zunbil Satrapy in western Afghanistan. For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. Also, nomads are often an exception due to their unique mechanics. Reformation tends to grant benefits of stability and the capacity to declare wars on larger-scale targets that smaller pagan nations couldn't attack, but lose many of the benefits that would help a small pagan nation expand more readily or defend itself from larger targets. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Old religion followers will be heretics with a -25 penalty to relations to members of the reformed faith. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Well. I feel it is a waste of slot and good for role play only. Pagan territories are usually significantly technologically behind all other cultures' territories, with the exception of Germanics having a tremendous lead in shipbuilding at the start of 867, as well as receiving said bonus after some time at the 769 start. Most of them have the same attributes as normal Doctrines, plus some features: This part will decide how the religious head of the reformed pagan religion will work: And that is all you need to know about pagan reformation in CK2. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Animistic effects. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority it isnt meant to be celtic pagan or any pagan religion in particular. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. Thats all for now! Penalties Reformer gets a powerful artifact. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. - can ask the leader of this realm to help convert the tribal leader's realm to the organized religion.Benefactor needs to be non-tribal, non-nomadic, non-theocracy (so you can't ask Pope for mass conversion . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Its holy sites are scattered around the map but are mostly controlled by right religion, even in 1066 starting date. Ilmen is also surrounded primarily by weak Suomenusko and Romuva pagans and is shielded by an ocean from the Norse until the Viking Age event triggers, giving plenty of time to solidify power. By choosing to reform your pagan religion, you will lose all the old advantages such as attrition for enemies and subjugation wars, but gain all the bonuses of a civilized nation. Although I admit the bloodline bugs with male consorts are beyond annoying. Valve Corporation. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. Sorry for the confusion. Stability is nice, but traveling Rivers without upkeep reduction is way more expensive than walking. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. Ancestor Worship decision available. You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. But it's because I favor Unyielding nature, and those two don't work well together. Temporal gives us nice hat upon reformation, and is part of synergy dogmatic, divine marriage which does not work atm. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw2ec-Lp6c, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVIEA1cbSo, UNITED STATES - The Cathar United States of Byzantium and Carpathia, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/regional-livonian-mod.849150/. My personal experience with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent. It's hard for me to rate a largely RNG mechanic highly. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). Each pagan faith has one unique doctrine, which has features of two or more generic traits. When you choose to play as a pagan ruler in CK2, you accept that there might be some problems (succession, levies, conversions) along the way that come with the advantages. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. +10% Attack for all units. However, stability is very low, and you have little control over your realm. Meritocracy with the best part of Warmongering nature? Warmongering - "raised levies penalty" is no so great pain in the ass anyways. +15 vassal opinion. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago The Zunists are unique in that they are somewhat of a hybrid of the Offensive and Defensive; generic Paganism grants no bonuses. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. That being said it's nice to see enemy becoming Your religion and spreading extra religion. Reformed offensive pagans no longer lose prestige when at peace. +1 piety per month while at peace. But, aside from Germanic/Zun, they are identical, except for slightly different flavor text and Slavic "Jarilo" event. You must log in or register to reply here. Its full potential is available when we are huge feudal empire and rely more on our vassal levies. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. Pagan Religion Reformation Advice. I think these are well balanced. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. However, it only applies to the homeland, and pagans have difficulty converting provinces due to low. This severely slows down early-game conquest of the typically smaller, fractious pagan realms by expanding Abrahamics. The best Doctrines by far are the two "Clans" option with the slight edge to Enatic. Need the +3 demense to have enough personal levies and also +15 opinion combined with Augustus trait and Born in the Purple ( another +15 opinion) is pretty OP. Women can take up to 3 consorts. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). They must switch to elective gavelkind if they wish to declare Subjugation or Tribal Invasion wars. For example, the average/casual player is probably not going be aggressively bloodline stacking. 867 enatic bloodline,African religion for consorts, cosmopolitan for husbands, syncretic to remove penalties, divine marriage so you can seduce and cosort acquire bloodlines, autonomous for a floating Dynasty opinion, fertility, or another +10 religion modifier. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. However, there are always playable rulers and provinces for this particular religion in Africa. This is just a bonus I found by accident. Crusader Kings II. By 867, the entire dynasty has converted to Hindu/Sunni, and merely a single courtier of this religion remains in the world, living in exile within the Shanshabani realm (Another exile is also there in 936 start). Bloodthirsty Gods effects. Lose piety when at war against faithful.Penalty to Spymaster steal technology. There's a mod that fixes this. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. Wait. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. True, but I wanted to avoid cheese/gamey mechanics when making this tierlist. Unrelenting also ignores unreformed pagan attrition but we can easily overcome it with tech later in game. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. Since I tend to rely on retinues and holy orders to expand it applies little benefit to me though. The best pagan religion is definitely Zunist Pagans with Norse or Altaic Culture (Norse is probably better, still allow you to raid and compounds with your religion heavy infantry bonus). Aztec Pyramid construction. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. Also you can give away the title, the best way would probably be as a viceroyalty. Note that Germanic pagans have as a holy site the county of Braunschweig, and taking that county will trigger the Catholic crusades (as well as the formation of every Catholic Holy Order but the Knights Templar) at the time that you take Braunschweig, so long as the year is 900 and the province is Christian. In particular, if Paderborn is held by a Germanic ruler and a Christian ruler occupies its temple of Irminsul (which normally occurs in the Charlemagne DLC's scripted invasion of Saxony by Karl of West Francia), all Catholic and Germanic rulers will receive a pop-up that the Catholics have burned the holy site of Irminsul, causing the Germanic faith to lose 10% moral authority for 10 years. If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. They also have access to two special casus belli: Most pagans have defensive attrition, massively reducing the supply limit for non-pagans invading their homeland. Once your a blob as the Roman Empire, you can stamp out any realm only with retinues/holy order and need not raise vassal levies, making civilized doctrine kind of useless). The homeland attrition penalty does apply to reformed pagans of another faith, but the "old faith" heresies have no such protection against the reformed churches of their specific branch of paganism. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Some of them are stronger than the regular doctrines. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. I think the only time I mention something similar is switching to Germanic to use Prepared Invasion in the context of Daring. You can join the Hermetics (without unpausing) via temporary conversion to an appropriate religion (eg. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. No females in the council. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation. Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Yea i know all that, and i never said i liked it. Strangely there are no upsides to Shia or Ibadi. What set of doctrines do you think is the best either lore wise, funny, or whats just the most OP reformation type. CK2 Pagan Reformation - Natures The first thing you will choose is one Nature. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug) such that the religious head can never be venerated. It requires either control of three holy sites and 50% moral authority, or control of all five holy sites. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous Germanic pagans do not have to reform to create the Jomsvikings; instead, they must control Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle.). Defensive pagan holdings also have larger garrisons (bonus varies per religion), making them harder to siege. It has synergy with Agnatic and Enatic doctries, giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions. Reforming the religion removes these restrictions, allowing tribal rulers to use gavelkind and allowing feudal rulers to use primogeniture. Cosmopolitan - maybe for bloodline collecting? Members; . Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. However, other rulers will have a choice. Depends on what you want. its the left over generic pagan religion that isnt used anymore since old gods actually separated it into different pagan religions #12 If you pick Unyielding with Germanic, Tengri or Aztec, you will lose their innate military bonuses (bug? Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. The likelihood of getting a Venerated Ancestor is also somewhat dependent on what other doctrines you've taken - some combinations make getting a Venerated Ancestor extremely unlikely. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are better. Defensive attrition is a powerful deterrent in the early game. No male in the council. In later starts, expanding north becomes increasingly difficult and by 1066, many rulers of the area have converted to Islam. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. I hope this tier list/guide was useful for you here reading this, despite its huge length. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows, disqualifying them from succession. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. Doubles the pool for good commanders and councillors and as a bonus you can give consorts to your daughters. Partially redundant with Sea-Bound doctrine. [1] These are not immediately obvious before reformation, or even immediately upon reformation. If someone used it with success please advocate this nature in comments. Cannot create Warrior Lodge if it does not already exist. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. Germanic faith is the faith of Scandinavian & Saxon people, worshiping deities like Odin/Wotan. Is it really cheesy/gamey though? By PegaluxX, January 4, 2019 in Crusader Kings 2. It's included in Children of Perun and Survivors of Ukko btw. Also I really wish we were given an "alert" for when Meliorism from Stability is ready :(. It basically removes any fear of a succession crisis ever again, and Enatic gets the slight edge by basically giving you a free subjugation/crusade option on pretty much any leader in the game due to the rarity of female rulers in general. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. Infidel tax is a nice flat bonus to income, I dont think it deserves lowest tier. It was the first game where I gave any titles to my family. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. Hellenic). AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Interesting read. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. This means you may invade territory held by another faith, but still gain the defensive bonus so long as the battle takes place upon land of your faith. Check out other interesting CK2 guides and articles: CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Retinues Guide. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Table View Card View Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. =/. Even as Catholic I would land my kin (I tried to do that as Muslim and learned the hard way via decadence revolts to never do it again). Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Tribal Islam is up to the point of being overpowered. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable.AI rulers will not convert provinces. While a casual player might not notice, an intermediate player probably will. Playing as a Pagan non-nomad offers a highly offensive, rapidly changing play-style. They then become the "Reformed" version. It's a bit of a challenge but shouldn't be too much for any player with a bit of experience. Generic Tengri paganism allows for more levies. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. I used it in my game Tengri Horde Jurchen Reformed Bon Chinese Empire and just dominated silk road. As I said in OP, if you are Roman Emperor you cannot designate heir for your top tittle. All defensive pagans have access to Ancestor Worship & Choose Patron deity decision. The last playable Germanic ruler available is Arnfast of Vsterbotten, who dies in 1309. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. All rights reserved. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? If that bloodline gets passed down it's a great way to boost up prestige in the early reign of your descendants. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Dont worry, this is exactly why we wrote this article, to help you understand what every Nature and Doctrine means and does. I think Polygamy would be powerful. Ancestor Worship. Funny thing about equality is that you can give consorts to your wife hehe. Others have concvinced me that Hellenic is the best overall. Zunists and Mongols may use Ultimogeniture; Bn may use both regular and elective gavelkind when tribal, and may also use primogeniture and ultimogeniture when feudal (or monastic feudal); Romuva/African may use Eldership when tribal; and rulers of the Celtic culture group always have the option for Tanistry. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Those who stick with the old ways are considered heretics by the reformed faith, and may be targeted by holy wars. Enatic Clans doctrine is extra powerful because one can easily 'breed in' several bloodlines by simply doing matrilineal marriages over a few generations. Proselytizing allows for faster conversion and you can also try to convert AI leaders with your court chaplain/diviner (or whatever the position is called). The opinion bonus and extra piety is always useful, which translates into a more stable realm. Also unrelenting is heavily underrated. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Peaceful Bonuses +3 Demesne limit. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. They keep access to county conquests and raids. Recommended Posts. ), creating negative synergy (though you can combine Unyielding with Animistic but dont cause Animistic is awful). Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. By doing a Pagan Reformation, the player decides to change the way their religion works for their CK2 playthrough. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. I picked Daring the first time, which allows prepared invasions, which is useless for the Roman Emperor. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. your character tries to convert them personally, like carousing or something). Such penalties usually function to prevent any rival faith from taking their lands in spite of being relatively weak and of a rival faith that normally could be easily holy warred. Reformer becomes the first religious head, PDXCON Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. Ancestor Worship decision available. Zun can also be reformed like other pagan faiths. Information, Frequently Asked I usually take unyielding but in the future I think I'll go with Proselytizing. Dogmatic Nature + Unrelenting Doctrine is a pretty powerful combination as it gives a flat 10% attack bonus to all units as well as makes your religion MA always high meaning easier polythesising, not to mention the removal of pagan attrition from your reformed religion, allowing you to continue ripping pagan lands to shreds without melting. Access to Hermetic society. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. Women can take up to 3 consorts. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. For the reference https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation, Nature: Two tiers here. Though, Unyielding isnt perfect. Intermarry Eastern group, Zoroastrian group. What options do you think is best for each, norse, slavic, tengri, etc? Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. Holy Sites: Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . +40% garrison size at county of this religion. The new reformation system allows players to build their religion for their preferred play-style and to combine incompatible characteristics. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . Access to Hermetic society. Autonomous leadership bonus for an attribute depends on original pagan religion. Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! I find one of the most boring parts of Pagan games is that theres no other friendly or same religion nations, pagan games often end up just being your country vs the world in holy wars. Having a hard time picking between prepared invasions and Meritocracy, either epic land grabs, or being able to designate best heir.. Full status of woman law is enforced. However, all the random events based on traits (which drop relations by 15 for those without and raise by 15 for those with the trait) are the same, along with the end bonus of 100 piety and prestige and +15 to vassal relations for one year. The default succession law for tribal unreformed pagans is elective gavelkind. This shows another bonus from raiding culture; with the combination of Equality and concubinage, kidnapping male princes also allows for strong claims for heirs on raided lands, and the prestige of having noble male consorts for female rulers. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). 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Can easily overcome it with tech later in game if other traits should unlock.. Provinces due to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort.... And extra piety is always useful, which is useless for the reference https: //ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans #,... Usually take Unyielding but in the pagan faith that bloodline gets passed down 's... Whats just the most OP reformation type who dies in 1309 with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent to....

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